June 2 Sarge Report
Approaches: 9
Dress: nice jeans, black shoes, white dress shirt, sports jacket, brown army hat.
Start the night out at Frederick's with Fun Girl Asian and one of her friends. Her friend is decent, so I feel her out but she was shyer than I felt like dealing with, so I start conversation with other people in the room. Girl who organized the party is ridiculously hot. She goes "Wow so many people came!" I go "OH MY GOD LIKE SO MANY PEOPLE CAME!" She starts laughing and says "I like you. I want to see you again in two weeks." "Maybe. I came with a friend. So invite her and I'll be here." Talk to some other people, then leave.
11 pm
On my way to meet with PUA Starving Artists League. It's raining ridiculous amounts and my feet hurt. I open up a 2-set anyway. MISTAKE I opened up with "So where are you guys going." I've done that a few times but not realized what was wrong with it. Here it is: It's not a confident statement. Unless I follow it up with, "Come with me to this other place instead," it doesn't convey enough interest and it's an information question. They continue conversation with me but I didn't get strong IOI's. Enter a bar; play a game of pinball. I love pinball, but there are so few places that have pinball games in New York City. MISTAKE There was a 4-set that I knew wanted me to approach, but for some reason I just didn't approach.
11:45
Arrive at SAL's location. He's with Velvet and has opened up a three set. I talk with them. One's cute. She's about 4'10 and looks like she'd be fun to hook up with. I'd give her a 7. I ask her what she does with her time (I never ask "what do you do" because it just sounds so plebian) and she tells me she runs sales for a start-up. And then proceeds to tell me what it's like working at a start-up and how the hours are long blahblahblah. I smile and comment it sounds rough but exciting. She goes on for about four minutes about how it's challenging and you "just gotta do whatever it takes!" I chuckle, wish her the best of luck with that, and eject from the group. Background: I start start-ups for a living and have had my own businesses since I was 12.
12:30
Meet up with a bunch of kids I hadn't seen since highschool. We say what's up get a few drinks, and then change locations.
1:30
Arrive at new location. Total sports bar with a frat guy feel. Lots of hot girls though. I stand on the way to the bathroom and stand with friends having a conversation. I open up several sets using the "So my friends and I were having a very serious discussion. If you don't mind, we would like your very serious opinion... If you had a choice between an extra set of arms, or a third eye in the back of your head, which would you take." That line is GOLDEN. Didn't get any lays out of it, but the girls weren't available. Two of the sets left saying, "Crap. I like talking to you but I've gotta get back to my boyfriend." I also approached a couple of sets with "Hi." But didn't get as favorable responses. I think that part of the reason why is that when I said hi, I wasn't thinking enough steps ahead. My goal was just to talk and say hi. Instead, my goal should be to get them to sit down with me or something more linear of that nature.
3:30
The guys I'm with (six of them) get into a fight with eight other guys outside while I'm opening up a set. My friends (the side I was rooting for) knocked out several of the other side's guys and clearly won the fight despite being outnumbered. It's over pretty quickly, but it's not like I'd have joined in anyway. I've not been in a fight since I turned 18. Ambulance and police come and the bar closes. My friends are questioned by the police, but let go.
4:00
Get on train and go home.
Dress: nice jeans, black shoes, white dress shirt, sports jacket, brown army hat.
Start the night out at Frederick's with Fun Girl Asian and one of her friends. Her friend is decent, so I feel her out but she was shyer than I felt like dealing with, so I start conversation with other people in the room. Girl who organized the party is ridiculously hot. She goes "Wow so many people came!" I go "OH MY GOD LIKE SO MANY PEOPLE CAME!" She starts laughing and says "I like you. I want to see you again in two weeks." "Maybe. I came with a friend. So invite her and I'll be here." Talk to some other people, then leave.
11 pm
On my way to meet with PUA Starving Artists League. It's raining ridiculous amounts and my feet hurt. I open up a 2-set anyway. MISTAKE I opened up with "So where are you guys going." I've done that a few times but not realized what was wrong with it. Here it is: It's not a confident statement. Unless I follow it up with, "Come with me to this other place instead," it doesn't convey enough interest and it's an information question. They continue conversation with me but I didn't get strong IOI's. Enter a bar; play a game of pinball. I love pinball, but there are so few places that have pinball games in New York City. MISTAKE There was a 4-set that I knew wanted me to approach, but for some reason I just didn't approach.
11:45
Arrive at SAL's location. He's with Velvet and has opened up a three set. I talk with them. One's cute. She's about 4'10 and looks like she'd be fun to hook up with. I'd give her a 7. I ask her what she does with her time (I never ask "what do you do" because it just sounds so plebian) and she tells me she runs sales for a start-up. And then proceeds to tell me what it's like working at a start-up and how the hours are long blahblahblah. I smile and comment it sounds rough but exciting. She goes on for about four minutes about how it's challenging and you "just gotta do whatever it takes!" I chuckle, wish her the best of luck with that, and eject from the group. Background: I start start-ups for a living and have had my own businesses since I was 12.
12:30
Meet up with a bunch of kids I hadn't seen since highschool. We say what's up get a few drinks, and then change locations.
1:30
Arrive at new location. Total sports bar with a frat guy feel. Lots of hot girls though. I stand on the way to the bathroom and stand with friends having a conversation. I open up several sets using the "So my friends and I were having a very serious discussion. If you don't mind, we would like your very serious opinion... If you had a choice between an extra set of arms, or a third eye in the back of your head, which would you take." That line is GOLDEN. Didn't get any lays out of it, but the girls weren't available. Two of the sets left saying, "Crap. I like talking to you but I've gotta get back to my boyfriend." I also approached a couple of sets with "Hi." But didn't get as favorable responses. I think that part of the reason why is that when I said hi, I wasn't thinking enough steps ahead. My goal was just to talk and say hi. Instead, my goal should be to get them to sit down with me or something more linear of that nature.
3:30
The guys I'm with (six of them) get into a fight with eight other guys outside while I'm opening up a set. My friends (the side I was rooting for) knocked out several of the other side's guys and clearly won the fight despite being outnumbered. It's over pretty quickly, but it's not like I'd have joined in anyway. I've not been in a fight since I turned 18. Ambulance and police come and the bar closes. My friends are questioned by the police, but let go.
4:00
Get on train and go home.
posted by Phantasmo at 12:45 AM
1 Comments:
those fights are the reason i cant stand thrashy divebars..happens all the time, especially in those upper east/west slums..or even the murray hill shitholes i guess .
Phantasmo: you throw in some very nice gems and insights (deadon point with the "where are you guys going"..same weak reaction). I like your subway opener, great for NY..and that third-eye..DL, watch it becoming it commercialized as the odious "who lies more"
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